Need a good solid argument

[Davey Benson]

Rofl! I have a queen, and it's not large enough for a pyr.

*guess you'll just have to sleep on the floor*

[BC19]

lol I have a queen too and there is just enough room for Siege to take over my lower corner. Then again it starts with the corner, and then he stretches out and it ends up being my whole side of the bed, but I am in the middle by the point anyway. Now, what gets interesting is when my son has a bad dream and wants to come into the bed as well. Two adults, one kid, and one pyr ... a queen just does not work out too well! This is my excuse to talk the hubby into a california king

[Chicag0_Red]

We have a King and believe me ... Pyrs expand to take up all available space. There isn't enough room in that king size bed for Hank and any 2 members of the _Red family.

[Tsunibear]

I have a Cal King bed to sleep on and well it's just Missy, Monty and I on the bed and there is no room for anyone else. Missy is a bed hog.

[nick's spirit]

kimie....my guess is that by the time winter comes & Bella "maybe" spends a night on the porch...hubby will get to missing her and will want her to be in the house with you!
I used to let my guys in our enclosed walkway, it had nice beds in it & it led to the garage where I left the back of my car open to let Nick sleep in the car (again piled with beds & blankets)....but when it was time for us to go to bed, Nick had to come in....my argument....he's here to protect us...what can he do if he's locked outside in the walkway!!
our only Pyr to sleep on the bed was Spirit, and that was only when hubby had to be gone for 6 weeks....it was a struggle to get his spot back, but she finally allowed it!! When not outside,Nick prefered the couch & Holly prefers her beds (we have 3) in our bedroom

[Espinay]

WEll, not sure how much 'help' I can be. Our 'Family Room/Kitchen' is FULL of large crates (three there at the moment) and we have a puppy crate in the lounge and in my study too LOL! I even have a dedicated whelping room in the house. The house was built with dogs in mind . One of our dogs does also sleep in our bedroom. She mostly prefers the floor but does come up on the bed too. One of my favourite sayings to my OH is 'we need a bigger bed' (we have a Queen). He just shakes his head and says there would never be any more room in it for us anyway (he is right LOL!). We do have a dedicated guest room that is off limits to the animals, particularly the cats (we have a son in law who is allergic to cats, even though he loves them. It gives him a comfortable sleep at night so he can better cope with the cats around the rest of the time). It has been a 'pet free' room from the beginning and only used for guests. But we have adequate space elsewhere and it was part of our 'design plan' to ensure family visitors were comfortable when they stayed.

While I agreee that the porch may not be too bad for the dog, I would hesitate to put the dog in a crate out there. If they can move around, relocate and find a spot that suits them, being outside is no issue. Confined to a crate though, the dog will not be able to reposition itself if need be or move around if it gets too cold. This applies if the porch is open to the elements. If this is a fully enclosed porch area though, that is different. Having no heating in an enclosed room is no issue and you can cover the crate to make it more 'denlike' if needs be.

Having the dog in the house with you provides more mental stimulation for the dog and more access to its 'pack'. The dog will often be more settled. If the dog is not well behaved in the house, train, dont complain. Bring the dog inside MORE often for supervised sessions. If not the guest room ,can you rearrange the furniture anywhere else in the house? Perhaps ask your other half for suggestions on what you might do - explaining the drawbacks with the basement (too hot) and porch (too cold if confined to the crate).

[kimierose]

Thanks for all the input guys. Bella is only in her crate when we arent here and at night we look forward to the day when she is maybe 2 or 3 and she can be trusted to stay out and not eat the house lol.I guess it's just me wanting to spoil her even more than she already isWe are also talking about a DH who said and I quote (Bella isnt allowed on the couch,chair etc) the first night we had her home he said that 3 months later(see inclosed pic) lol Im sure me and Bella will prevail in the end.The pic was taken last night and where was hubby in the chair