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    Default Five ^ Half Weeks After Pit Bulls Attack

    Princess Jewel is all healed up now, tho we still find scabs. She does have a rather large on the back of her head, and a couple under her ears. All the rest have cleared up. Her left eye will never be the same. It had 5 puncture wounds around it and the eyelid slit on the inner corner and the lid droop a little. But I am so thankful her eyeball & sight were not damaged at all. Mentally, so far she has not seemed a bit scared of the dogs on the sides or back fences of our place, not the 3 that were in the vet's when I took her in. I am not sure how she would do if one charged at her.

    She has really settled in---had only adopted her 6 days before the attack. She now comes to greet everyone who comes to the door instead of waiting for them to be here a little while. She didn't bark at all the first couple of weeks, then only an occasional one or two "woof's", now she will bark at cats in the yard or things outside that she hears. And her barks getting louder. She had been in her first home for 9 1/2 years and then with foster for about 7 weeks, so I guess she was not sure this was gonna be her "forever" home, but has decided it is. We love her to death and she loves to sleep with us.

    I on the other hand still have trouble with my hand. Appears I have nerve damage in my pinkie finger. Was my ring finger that was broken where it joins my hand and it does ache if use a lot, but had some deep puncture wounds to side and bottom of littler finger 7 hand and that did it. Also, for some reason the knuckle on that hand hurts when I bend it. I go back to the hand specialist tomorrow. He may want me to have more therapy. But mentally I am not fine. I can not bring myself to walk Jewel despite having the pepper spray. I saw those two pit bulls being beaned by my with that yard ornament, Dina with something, an the guy with the board til it boke and it didn't faze them one bit so worry the spray would not stop one if it had the kill mode in it's brain.

    As for the dogs, I was able to get the open report from the police department but that did not include statements from Dina, Steve, nor Shelly. The report by the animal control was there. She noted the owners were given a total citations for each dog 1. being at large, 2. no current on rabies vax, and 3. no city tags, total of 6 citations. Officer such and such had gone to their home on the 5th and told them the 10 days quarantine was up and what the cot would be to get their dogs out. I do not know if this was just the quarantine fee or if it also included the fines for the 6 citations then a notation on the 7th saying they owners of the dogs had not made a response to officer such & such visit and that they hd until 5:00 that afternoon to respond as to what their intentions were regarding the dogs and if they did not respond by that time, the dogs would ben euthanized. And the report ended there, no conclusion as to if they got the dogs or not

    HOWEVER I had talked to a d law firm that has a guy that specializes in dog bites as I was not able to get information. Sadly, the people do have home owners insurance, but has a dog bite exclusion. So naturally the firm will no represent me as no big bucks. since the do not have insurance. However, the lawyer did tell me he had talked to her the week before nd she told him they could not afford to get the dogs back, so had let them go. He also sent me a copy of the letter from their insurance company where it states the e policy has "an exclusion of any bodily harm or damage caused by dogs belonging to, cared for, or in the custody of the policy owner/owners." It is a "high risk" company and has three levels of coverage. I googled them. It is Worth and is part of Wellington. So they have no insurance that covers my $700 vet bill, all my co-pays for doctor visits, co pay of meds, gas traveling to corpus--is 50 miel round trip to hand doctor. The lawyer advised me to fight on with any and ever means from hiring a lawyer to go to court down to filing in small claims. Of course, even being ruled against doesn't mean they would ever pay me one red cent. But Ifound tht in Teas I can hold a lien for the money against their house, etc. Usually I am not a vengeful person, but they had two dogs that are known can be very dangerous. They did not tend to the fence even tho their dugs had gotten out before and neighbor had filled in the holes. They didn't have the dogs current on rabies vax nor city tags. And the dogs attacked with no provocation at all. Knowing they didn't hae insurance they never attempted to even contact me about paying anything, even paying a little each month. So I intend to make their lives as miserable as I can. I do not mind the scars on my hand, or Princess Jewels slight droopy eye, bu I do mind the terror I feel even in my own front yar if I see a dog, any dog, out in the street, and I can't walk our girl and hubby had foot durgery on his right foot 10 days ago and willnot be able to walk her for a fe months.
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    So sorry this happened to you, but glad to hear you are recovering from this horrible incident! It's also awful when a person has to feel like a prisoner in their own home because of bad neighbours. I hope you start feeling safe again soon.
    I was surprised to hear that these people were given the option of getting their dogs back. I am not familiar with the laws on this, just always thought when something like this happens, the dogs are automatically taken away and euthanized. I've always felt dog owners like them should be held more responsible, maybe even criminally charged. I don't blame you at all for wanting to pursue this in court. They are otherwise bound to get more animals and continue with no regard to neighbours or the law. Please keep us up to date and best of luck to you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie_love View Post
    So sorry this happened to you, but glad to hear you are recovering from this horrible incident! It's also awful when a person has to feel like a prisoner in their own home because of bad neighbours. I hope you start feeling safe again soon.
    I was surprised to hear that these people were given the option of getting their dogs back. I am not familiar with the laws on this, just always thought when something like this happens, the dogs are automatically taken away and euthanized. I've always felt dog owners like them should be held more responsible, maybe even criminally charged. I don't blame you at all for wanting to pursue this in court. They are otherwise bound to get more animals and continue with no regard to neighbours or the law. Please keep us up to date and best of luck to you!
    Dixie_love, I see you are in Corpus. We are in Ingleside. Almost neighbors--at least here in Texas as big as it is. We live on a skinny U shaped street with 25 houses on it. Most of the homes belong to seniors, retired, etc. The couple on one side of us has 3 or 4 chihuahuas and a deaf Boston Terrier. On the other side, she has 2 terrier mixes. One couple down the street has a pit and they had to put up an 8 foot chain link fence Then the family across from them have the 4 with the 2 chained in front, once of which went after me in Dec, ripping my pants, bit the 21 year old boy next door. There are a few inside dogs and one house has a GSD and a little dog tht run up and down the fence barking when you walk by. The wife a a friend of my brother up in Austin worked at a large animal hospital up there for several years. My brother was telling her about what happened and threat the AC could not tell me if the dogs had been put down or not. Susan told him that was right. When they hd dog in quarantine if the bite victim called they could not tell them if the dog was put down or not. If it had been returned they would say "We can't give out that information", but if the dog had been put down they would say "I don't think you need worry about being attacked by that dog again" and hope the victim understood the dog had been put down. Texas has a "one bite law" and unless the dog is deemed vicious and likely to attack again, it can be returned to thei owner. A bit complicated, but that is why they could have gotten the dogs back----even tho animal control said they needed to be put down, or at least the one that started the attack and bit me should be donwn.
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    I was just voicing my concern about walking our pup and loose dogs to a friend when I read your post. And then realized you live so close to us. We go to Ingleside every so often, usually when my daughter has a dance performance at your local Catholic church at St Patrick's Day celebration, etc. One of my coworkers from a previous job lives there and commutes to CC.
    Your story prompted me to do some research online about dog bite laws in TX, and this interesting article popped up

    https://www.maafirm.com/library/lill...r-attorney.cfm

    One bite law seems fair in cases where it truly is one bite that didn't cause serious injury and there's no reason for further concern. In your case though it sounds like a genuinely serious injury to you and your pup. It sure is unfair for you to pay all medical bills and go through emotional pain because of it while the owners of those dogs walk away with a few fines.

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    [QUOTE=Dixie_love;104895]I was just voicing my concern about walking our pup and loose dogs to a friend when I read your post. And then realized you live so close to us. We go to Ingleside every so often, usually when my daughter has a dance performance at your local Catholic church at St Patrick's Day celebration, etc. One of my coworkers from a previous job lives there and commutes to CC.
    Your story prompted me to do some research online about dog bite laws in TX, and this interesting article popped up

    https://www.maafirm.com/library/lill...r-attorney.cfm

    One bite law seems fair in cases where it truly is one bite that didn't cause serious injury and there's no reason for further concern. In your case though it sounds like a genuinely serious injury to you and your pup. It sure is unfair for you to pay all medical bills and go through emotional pain because of it while the owners of those dogs walk away with a few fines.[/QUOTE

    We are only a stones throw from the Catholic church. I ran into Dina, the lady I was talking to when the dogs attacked and she said the people had not gotten the dogs back, they had been put down. She was much relieved since her room mate has a dog and it could happen to that dog if it happened to me. Their are next door neighbors Dina's boyfriend wok works on his vehicle in her back yard in a cement place is terrified of the one, the oen that got my hand, but since it seems if it attacks the other does to, he is relieved they are both gone. She also said I need to sue, it was nto right that I sould hae to pay all that money becaue those people didn't properly restrain their dogs, etc.
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    I think you have a good case and several solid witnesses. Hope these negligent neighbours learn from this. Best wishes to you! I'd love to know what happens!

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    Yesterday I sent the couple a copy of my vet bill--it lists what each charge is. I wrote a letter telling them that since they do not have dog bite coverage in their insurance, then the law says they are responsible for paying my expenises due to the attackby their dogs. I also told them that when I find out what out my insurance has not paid for my expenses, they will be getting the complete bill from each doctor, copies of the cost of my prescriptions, etc.

    I was nice about it, but let them know I expected to be paid for that $700 vet bill and whatever my expenses will be. I have received one for one visit for the hand doctor, and paid it --my $20 co-pay. I have not asked for anything for my pain, my fear of infection as I am diabetic, nor the fear I now have to get out and walk my dog. I am told that is PTSDS but I can't think that is correct. I am only asking for them to make up every penny I have paid out or will pay pay out as it is their fault they didn't make sure their dogs could not get out--they had been out before according to neighbor--didn't have rabies vax, no city tags. I should not be out one red cent for that attack.

    I can also take them to court if they do not pay, and if so I will be asking for extra money. And if they do not pay, according to Texas law I can get a lien against their house or other property. And I will do it. I am giving them every chance to come thru, not trying to take advantage of them in any way, but if they want to be nasty about it, so will I.
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    I am so proud of you, for how you have responded to this. The boys and I are sending love and good energy to you, Jerry, and Princess Jewel every day.

    I talked to my Mom about this. Not only is she one of the smartest people I’ve ever met, but she is also experienced in high-end litigation, from her job(s) at respected law firm(s). She wanted me to pass on to you that if a private attorney in your community won’t take the case, because of a lack of insurance on the Defendants’ end, your community is small enough that Legal Aid may be able to make a significant impact.

    I would also encourage you, if you haven’t already, to gather neighbors together in an attempt to convince your City Council to take these matters more seriously. There was a recent incident in Frisco, a city in the Dallas North Exurbs, where a dog owned by Dax Prescott, the Quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, was banned from the Frisco City Limits because the dog escaped the home and severed a neighbor’s finger during a fence fight with the neighbor’s dog. The neighbors were all made aware of the plight of the dog in question, and I am positive that Dax Prescott will be held liable for his neighbor’s injuries.

    Heavens forbid, if either of my two were ever to be involved in such a horrific incident, the VERY FIRST thing I would do is try to make it right by the injured party or parties.

    I am glad to hear that you and Princess Jewel are healing physically. I know first-hand that the PTSD can be hard to accept, but I am here if you ever need to discuss.

    Again, sending the three of you so much love!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SebastiansMom View Post
    I am so proud of you, for how you have responded to this. The boys and I are sending love and good energy to you, Jerry, and Princess Jewel every day.

    I talked to my Mom about this. Not only is she one of the smartest people I’ve ever met, but she is also experienced in high-end litigation, from her job(s) at respected law firm(s). She wanted me to pass on to you that if a private attorney in your community won’t take the case, because of a lack of insurance on the Defendants’ end, your community is small enough that Legal Aid may be able to make a significant impact.

    I would also encourage you, if you haven’t already, to gather neighbors together in an attempt to convince your City Council to take these matters more seriously. There was a recent incident in Frisco, a city in the Dallas North Exurbs, where a dog owned by Dax Prescott, the Quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, was banned from the Frisco City Limits because the dog escaped the home and severed a neighbor’s finger during a fence fight with the neighbor’s dog. The neighbors were all made aware of the plight of the dog in question, and I am positive that Dax Prescott will be held liable for his neighbor’s injuries.

    Heavens forbid, if either of my two were ever to be involved in such a horrific incident, the VERY FIRST thing I would do is try to make it right by the injured party or parties.

    I am glad to hear that you and Princess Jewel are healing physically. I know first-hand that the PTSD can be hard to accept, but I am here if you ever need to discuss.

    Again, sending the three of you so much love!
    Thanks so much. Princess Jewel is the calmest, most laid back dog I have ever seen. She seems to have forgotten all about the attack. I do not know if all this is due to her having been a show dog or what. I know she doesn't mind at all when we examine her feet, brush her tail, her ears, anything. She is such a sweetie.

    Jerry had that last foot surgery 5 weeks ago this last Thursdays . All the incisions for his toes have healed, the pins are out of his toes, etc., but on the inside of his foot where the bunion was removed, it is still draining some. He is back on antibiotics. Anyway, a nurse comes out every day to change the bandage. There are 4 that come out. Linda comes the most. Anyway, they ALL have dogs or their own except Linda. And they all think Jewel is so wonderful. She will be sleeping in the bedroom but hears them in the living room and has to come and get some attention from them. Lisa came three days ago and PJ mut have been sleeping pretty hard because she did not hear Lisa come in. Lisa had ben here about 5 minutes and she looked around and said "Where is she?". A few minutes later PJ came in wagging her tail and went right to Lisa for attention.

    Back to my problem. I will try to talk to the city attorney and see if he can give me any help. There are no lawyers in our small town. Those people have never contacted me at all. About 8 or so years ago the guy that lived across from us had a yellow lab, a HUGE one that attacked the fox terrier, Prissy, ho was being walked by her owner, Mary. The vet bill came to a couple of thousands of dollars and they guy paid every penny. He went to Mary and told her just give him the bills. I don't know if he paid out of his pocket or insurance paid. I can not understand people owning dogs that are known to be a fighting, undependable breed and not have insurance. From what I read, some insurance companies will not insure pts, staffies, rotties, dobies, chows and some other rather rare breeds. BUT you can buy separate insurance. I bet it cost a lot. We ahave state frm and thy do not omit any breed, all are covered.

    There was another attack by pits in the Dallas area--they had bitten someone and was in quarantine. Their owner (I think she was in her 3-0's came each day to feed them and exercise them in the exercise area. Then one day they attacked her and nobody could get out there to try to help her. Police were called and had to kill the dogs in order to get to the woman--but she was already dead, killed by her own two pits. And a few years back at the same big vet clinic, one of the workers, a young girl, was attacked by the pit she was walking and was almost killed. People can tell me from sun up to sun down that they are sweet dogs, etc, but after I was attacked twice in 2 months time I do not think so. I know the family that own the first dog to attack me and they are very nice people. He is a captain in the Corpus Christi fire department. The orthopedic surgeon that I was sent to said most of the dog bite patients he gets--pit bull attacks. I was in for my 3 month check at my primary doctor last week and my blood sugar was high. He said stress could do it and I was telling him about all Jerry's foot surgeries and about the attack. He said he has seen what pit bulls can do, has treated many bites. So I will be scared to death of them the rest of my life, and if we have to evacuate for a Hurricane, I will not go to my brothers as his son lives there and has a pit.
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    Totally agree with you about breeds that are known to be dangerous. It's amazing and very sad to see that with so many incidents where pitts turn on their owners or worse, kids, people still claim that it's how you raise them and genetics has nothing to do with it. If that's truly the case, then why do we have breeds that were specifically bred for a specific purpose, like hunting, herding, guarding, speed, etc. Pitts were bred for aggression - you can train them, teach them, love them, but in the end you just can't guarantee it won't one day snap and turn on you or on someone else. Like, not long ago I was watching Great Pyrenees videos on YT, and there was a video about a GP ignoring his master's orders when there was danger, and the dog first protected his people and only after the danger was gone, the dog came back to his owners. There were people in the comments who said the dog wasn't trained well. And then there were comments from people who know the GP breed who said that this behaviour is typical of the GP because they were bred as a LGD and their first instinct is to protect regardless of the danger and his owner's calling the dog back.
    Well, if we can accept behavioral quirks of a breed, then why can't people accept that pitts are capable of turning on a person because it's in their genes?
    When I was looking to adopt a GP, before we got Dixie, I was looking in shelters and local ads. All were overflowing with ads for pitts or pitt mixes. I really don't understand the popularity of these dogs, it's like all the incidents only inspired people to breed and adopt them more. Ok, I get it that some people love them for whatever reason, and they can't be totally banned, but why can't there be some sort of regulation? I think excessive backyard breeding is one of the issues, irresponsible ownership is another. Sadly, irresponsible owners are everywhere. I have seen loose dogs in our neighbourhood and around my work place, both good areas of town.

    Incidentally, do you remember (as you live in our area) the local news story not long ago about a pack of loose pitts terrorising a neighbourhood for weeks until they were caprured? It was even shown on video on the local news.
    Anyway, I totally understand your fears of these dogs after what you've been through. I'm afraid of them too.

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