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    Road Dawg

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    Hey everyone,

    I signed Judge up for an obedience class. Itís all levels/ages and all breeds mixed together. Heís doing alright with training 1 on 1 as far as at the house and on walks in our neighbourhood but I noticed he is super A.D.D (pyr thing I know) when we are in public so I figured we needed a class in a neutral as well as distracting area.

    We had our first class yesterday. Itís at the trainers house. Sheís located in the country. She is a Siberian husky breeder who does confirmation, agility as well as dog sledding with her dogs. She also teaches competitive obedience, confirmation, rally etc.

    When we got there Judge was overly excited. So many sights, sounds and smells he was overwhelmed to say the least. He was trying to pull me everywhere! I was getting him in check the best I could before class started. The trainer asked me if we could use a pinch collar to start off just to ďsoften him upĒ so he would be more receptive to the correction in his choke collar. She explained the proper use to me as ďyou wonít be giving him a correction. He will be correcting himself. Just hold the lead with this much slack (insert her showing me) and put your hand in your pocket. If he tries to put his nose to the ground just shrug your shoulder up quickly so that he feels the resistance and he will correct himself.Ē I did as she said and within 2 laps around the ring of heel he was acting better. She instructed me to switch the lead to his choke collar (it was on right above the pinch collar) since he was being good. In her words..Ē heís showing correct behaviour he has earned the right to use the compfy collar. If he starts reverting back to bad behaviour and not listening then you put him back on the pinch until he earns his right again.Ē It was soo eye opening! I didnít like the idea of a pinch collar especially since Iíd had no formal training on using one. It would have NEVER been something I would have just picked up from the pet store and started using on my own. Iím not saying Iím running out and buying one this instance nor am I endorsing them but I believe in the right situation and under the correct supervision it is a valuable training tool in my experience.

    Let me tell you Judge did in fact lose his privledge of the compfy collar by throwing a full blown toddler temper tantrum complete with legs in the air and growl/whining. EMBARRASSING. The trainer kinda chuckled and said ďitís always the biggest and strongest willed dogs that throw the temper tantrums. I had one last class too. Itís their last resort after they realize they cant boss you into getting their own way by throwing their weight around.Ē She instructed me to just keep walking and he will follow. Which he did indeed. After that he started refusing treats in protest (which he has done before) so I switched treats out with pats on the head (another currency he accepts with glee). The last 15 mins of class he was just plain exhausted and was panting a storm up. It seemed I had won the ďbattle of the willsĒ.


    Honestly for the 1st class I learned a lot. Now itís just a matter of small training sessions until the next class on Thursday which I am excited for! Iíll keep you all updated on his progress!

    Oh And another thing that was interesting is that when the trainer was putting his collar on she mentioned she had a dog that looks very similar to him in her 4H class. I asked her ďis his name Sparky?Ē Sure enough she knows and works with Judges full blood brother from a previous litter. He is a 4H obedience winner and is trained by a 10 year old. Sooooo maybe just MAYBE Judge is trainable by a 27 year old

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    Yay team Judge!!!

    using tools properly can be useful in many situations...having a trainer that seems to have a sense of humor & knowledge along with a positive attitude is great!

    I always say...the class is mostly to train me...then I can teach my dog!

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    So we have had Judges 2nd obedience class. We have already made progress as I did Not have to use the pinch collar once!

    We learned a proper lay down and proper turns while heeling. He did throw a mini temper tantrum when he got tired of showing me he could lay down. ď how many times do I got to show you woman!?!?!Ē Was the look I got after 5 mins of lay down commands. The trainer was good and said ďheís one of those breeds that will show you they can do it and then will flip you off when you abuse the command. That may be something you are just going to have to get used to. Knowing his limit and how many times you can use the command before it becomes useless.Ē Then she mentioned her Siberian huskies are the same way. She wanted to end on a good note with training and let us bow out of any lay down commands from that point on as to not reinforce his not listening to the command.

    We had a couple more dogs this class. One of which was super distracting to Judge during the ďstayĒ portion of the class. It was a little male papillon that likes to squeak in protest during the stay. Judge wanted to go over and check him out every time he heard him squeak! Iím thinking that is his guardian coming out in him. He was also really drawn to this new catahoula leopard puppy (female) that was there this time. She was just a baby and cute as a button and nervous. Again his guardian was showing I believe.

    Again it was a great class and we learned things. Yaaaay! Mondayís class was canceled due to the amount of rain we have got over the course of the weekend. The trainers land is essentially a swamp today

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    Congratulations!!! You are making great strides with your boy and should be so proud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kholts View Post
    SHe did throw a mini temper tantrum when he got tired of showing me he could lay down. ď how many times do I got to show you woman!?!?!Ē Was the look I got after 5 mins of lay down commands.
    Yep, training a pyr takes negotiation skills It's a good thing that you found a trainer who understands not all dogs are wired to obey commands like a robot. Huskies aren't exactly known to excel in the obedience rings either...

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    Congrats on all you & Judge have accomplished so far...you are proving that you are truly a team!!!

    and I am so awed by the trainer you are using....she sounds like she's very knowledgeable and understands the breed...such a plus!

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    Thanks everyone

    Thursdayís class went supremely well! I was a little anxious to see how he behaved that class because he had played the WHOLE day with my sister in laws rottweiler. He was so exhausted when I put him in the car to go to class. I was thinking he was just going to lay down in the arena and not want to do anything! Luckily when we got there he got out of the car ready to learn and actually listen and complete all the commands without one tantrum Even the trainer 1/4 of the way through class mentioned he seemed calm. Thatís when I told her he was just exhausted and didnít have the energy to fight. I guess this really shows that an exercised dog is a trainable dog lol.

    During class we practiced all the things we learned (heel, sit, lay down, sit/stay, lay down/stay) then we learned the ďstandĒ command. This command is for vet/grooming purposes. Basically itís getting your dog to stand on command and not react to people touching them. The dog had to be more into the treat than the person touching them. Judge excelled at this one. The trainer was able to run her hand from his head to his rump with out him even acknowledging her presence. I was kinda surprised as he is all about people and getting pet.

    The next class is tonight! Iím going to make sure I take Judge for a long walk before leaving to class. Itís also stupid hot today so Iím sure that will take some of the pep out of his step lol.

    Here is the latest eye candy. Freshly bathed and already dirty
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    oh, the look on his face in that photo...like "I know I look handsome!"

    your experience with him being mentally & physically tired and learning is a good lesson to all....we have to keep reminding ourselves to really give these pups some challenging exercise!

    congrats on all the accomplishments & team work you & Judge are doing together!

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    Congratulations to you both!!! You are giving me serious inspiration to attempt a class with Zech. Judge is rockin' this with you....
    I am not even sure where to start here in Denver but I think I may have to figure that out. I just think Zech would love learning with other dogs; though I think I would be the learning one - eyes wide- LOL

    P.S. That just bathed photo is priceless cheers

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    Hey everyone.

    I havenít updated in a while. We have completed our first obedience class. I have seen some improvement in his day to day listening and walks. Donít get me wrong he can still be a pig headed pyr...or should I say just a regular pyr headed pyr

    At the end if the classes our last day was testing. Unfortunately we got tested after the freshly in heat German shepherd so needless to say my Un neutered male was less than productive while being tested on heeling. Most of our point deductions were taken in the heeling category which I thought we would do perfect in. I was wrong lol.

    He was successful with the stand for inspection, come commamd and the finish command (which is basically getting your dog to go from sitting in front of you to walking around and getting into heeling position) as well as the 1 min sit /stay which was super surprising as we have struggled with that one and still continue to struggle with it. We did completely fail the 3 min lay/stay which did not surprise me as lay down in general Is a struggle.

    As far as scoring goes we got 149/200. So that is the score I want to beat going into our 2nd round of obedience classes. We have completed 2 classes so far and itís going alright. We are learning to leave it and let dogs walk by without reacting to them and so far thatís hit or miss.

    I honestly believe most of his ADD comes from being a 1 year old with his manly bits intact. Iím trying to hold out as long as I can to neuter him for him to fully mature structurally. He hasnít shown any bit of aggression to people or other dogs in general which Iím extatic about. His nose just gets going and his brain goes with it lol.

    Anyways Iíll update in a more timely matter after our next class.

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