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    BLUF: I need advice regarding getting another dog someday

    I am new to posting in the forum, so first let me say that all of these threads were of great help to me with my Great Pyrenees puppy. We got our Frosty boy in October, and had an amazing 5 months with him before we had to put him to sleep suddenly last month.

    Trying to keep a long, devastating (for me and my husband) story short, Frost was the smallest in the litter but seemed healthy until 5 months, when his love of water became an obsession and normal puppy exhaustion was becoming worse periodically. A trip to the vet revealed unconcentrated urine but no overhydration, so we were sent to an internal specialist. After an ultrasound and various blood tests and urine tests, the vet determined that Frost either had severe behavioral polydypsia or a unique case of congenital kidney disease (in that his ultrasound looked normal, and early kidney disease doesn’t always show in blood work). At that point, the vet recommended rechecking his blood work in 3-4 months, but we were back and getting more blood work done during a CT scan for elbow displasia just a little while later - yes to elbow displasia, blood work still normal. The vet even thought he was healthy enough for corrective surgery and my husband and I were discussing our options to pay for it. 7 days after that, I came home from work to find he hadn’t touched his water and was really out of it. I rushed him to the vet, but his sodium levels were off the charts and they couldn’t save him. They said he shouldn’t have been able to lift his head anymore, but he even gave me a few more kisses before he dropped his head and we had to say goodbye so he wouldn’t suffer anymore. The vet said we did everything we possibly could have for our boy, but it was a cold comfort.

    My husband and I are crushed. We have both lost olderdogs before, but this is so different and so much worse for both of us. We aren’t ready for another dog yet, because we are still missing our baby like crazy and processing how quickly he passed. The last thing we want to do is compare another dog to our sweet boy who literally got along with every living creature ever.

    However, we have all this stuff designed for a huge dog. We bought a house with a yard because we love dogs. We have a 3yo dog who mourned for two weeks but is already starting to get lonely and doesn’t do as well with dog parks as with an in house companion - we actually got the puppy partially for her.

    Finally, the questions: After the sudden loss of a puppy, how do you know when you’re ready for another dog? We’re fairly sure our Sienna girl is already ready, but are there any signs that confirm that?

    Also, would getting another Great Pyrenees be ok, or would that be a bad idea from the perspective of not treating him - since our female dog gets along with boys better - as a replacement for Frost?

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    A warm welcome and my heartfelt condolences on your tragic loss of Frost. There is never a time when losing our babies doesn't hurt terribly but there is something very uniquely painful when you lose one that is still so young. I lost one at 8 months. Timing for a new fur baby isn't always easy to answer. I think the important thing to remember when you decide to get a new pup is that Frost is irreplaceable. There will never be another dog like him and getting another dog is another journey, another relationship, another love. It will never replace Frost and it is a worry you don't need to carry. Frost's place in your heart can't be taken by another dog but it doesn't mean you don't have room for another in your heart. It will have it's own place, just like Sienna retained her place when you got Frost. If she gets along better with male dogs, it is in her best interest and the best interest of your new baby, to get a male and make their relationship as smooth and trouble-free as possible. Many people have a particular love for a certain breed of dog and getting another of the same breed that has a similar look still means you have a unique and different individual than any other dog. Another Pyreness puppy may or may not be similar to Frost. As long as you set out on the journey with a new pup without expectations of it being a certain way, there really is no reason you couldn't get another GP. Sometimes you don't necessarily feel ready for a new dog, but you also aren't ready to be without one or, as is the case with your Sienna, you may need another as a companion for a dog you already have. These are all reasons that bear examination in making a decision about when it is time to add another dog. Sometimes, it is the right thing to do, whether you are ready or not. When I lost my 4 year old working dog to cancer, the timing was such that a pup was available to come the day after we had to have him put down. I was not "ready" for a new dog, but he was ready for us and I went into the new pup knowing I was doing this because it was right, not because I was ready. Sending healing wishes and the knowledge you need to know when your time is right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonia View Post
    A warm welcome and my heartfelt condolences on your tragic loss of Frost. There is never a time when losing our babies doesn't hurt terribly but there is something very uniquely painful when you lose one that is still so young. I lost one at 8 months. Timing for a new fur baby isn't always easy to answer. I think the important thing to remember when you decide to get a new pup is that Frost is irreplaceable. There will never be another dog like him and getting another dog is another journey, another relationship, another love. It will never replace Frost and it is a worry you don't need to carry. Frost's place in your heart can't be taken by another dog but it doesn't mean you don't have room for another in your heart. It will have it's own place, just like Sienna retained her place when you got Frost. If she gets along better with male dogs, it is in her best interest and the best interest of your new baby, to get a male and make their relationship as smooth and trouble-free as possible. Many people have a particular love for a certain breed of dog and getting another of the same breed that has a similar look still means you have a unique and different individual than any other dog. Another Pyreness puppy may or may not be similar to Frost. As long as you set out on the journey with a new pup without expectations of it being a certain way, there really is no reason you couldn't get another GP. Sometimes you don't necessarily feel ready for a new dog, but you also aren't ready to be without one or, as is the case with your Sienna, you may need another as a companion for a dog you already have. These are all reasons that bear examination in making a decision about when it is time to add another dog. Sometimes, it is the right thing to do, whether you are ready or not. When I lost my 4 year old working dog to cancer, the timing was such that a pup was available to come the day after we had to have him put down. I was not "ready" for a new dog, but he was ready for us and I went into the new pup knowing I was doing this because it was right, not because I was ready. Sending healing wishes and the knowledge you need to know when your time is right.
    Thank you. That means a lot. Most of the people around me keep saying I need to wait until Iím ready and Sienna will wait, but I donít want her to suffer because Iím still grieving. My husband and I thank you for the warm words and sound advice. Also, condolences on losing dogs so young. I have a feeling that pain grows smaller but never really leaves.

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    Welcome to the forum....so sorry it's under these circumstances...as Antonia says, it's never easy no matter the age....but it seems a pup hits the hardest....

    May I ask what breed of dog Sienna is...I also agree that if she seems to get along with male dogs, then that may be what you should look for...

    About getting another dog...that is such a personal decision...but remember, the new pup is not Frost replacement...you are welcoming in a new dog to give them a chance at a loving & secure home...

    Whether it should be a Pyrenees or not...depends on how you feel. If you think you will look at another Pyr & compare it to Frost, then maybe a different large breed....maybe even a rescue closer to Sienna's age....there are so many out there.

    We got our latest dog in almost the same way as Antonia....our Pyr, Holly had passed away, we were down to 2 dogs...happy family life...then my husband saw a mini Aussie on Craiglist.....it was the first time since Holly's passing we both agreed to go look at this pup (I took my checkbook just in case...ha!) we came home with Dasher...he's not anywhere close to a mini...however he's the most loving, social & happy boy we've ever had

    I wish the same for you & your family

    Nancy & Rudy

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    So sorry for the loss of your baby pyr. I know there are no words adequate to help you with the hurt you are going through.

    I comprehend the deep sense of loss of losing one before it has had its fair share of a good long life. How long the grieving process requires of course varies from person to person. Frost will forever have a place in your heart.

    Bringing another pup into your lives will not replace Frost and it is not a betrayal of sorts to Frost. I think you are right and responsible to acknowledge that while you are still hurting, you still have to have the best interest of your other dog in mind because she is still with you.

    I think that you and your husband made a decision to have a pyr in your lives and Frost joined your family. You never had the chance to know him as a full grown pyr in all his magnificence. I think it would not be a wrong decision to have another pyr as your girl dog is already used to the breed. As to concerns of comparing another pyr pup to Frost, you can try to alleviate that possibility by looking to a pup that is marked differently than Frost. That is, if Frost was all white, look for a pup with badger marks, or vice versa.

    We lost both Bijou and Bro (the two in my avatar pic) within a 15 month period. We lost Bijou first, entirely unexpectedly, at age 6. A month after Bijou left, Bro was diagnosed with bone cancer. Bro died a year after his diagnosis. After we lost Bro, I thought we would just be dogless for a while because I simply didn't have the heart and energy to start all over again, not then, and maybe never. Then Ren came into our lives 4 months later. Ren is our 4th pyr and the first one we've had with heavy badger markings. All of the others had all white faces. With his dark badger marks it's not possible to mistaken him for either Bijou or Bro. It helps to make him his own individual and reminds us that he is not his predecessors.

    Again, so sorry for the devastating loss of Frost. May your find peace in your heart in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick's spirit View Post
    Welcome to the forum....so sorry it's under these circumstances...as Antonia says, it's never easy no matter the age....but it seems a pup hits the hardest....

    May I ask what breed of dog Sienna is...I also agree that if she seems to get along with male dogs, then that may be what you should look for...

    About getting another dog...that is such a personal decision...but remember, the new pup is not Frost replacement...you are welcoming in a new dog to give them a chance at a loving & secure home...

    Whether it should be a Pyrenees or not...depends on how you feel. If you think you will look at another Pyr & compare it to Frost, then maybe a different large breed....maybe even a rescue closer to Sienna's age....there are so many out there.

    We got our latest dog in almost the same way as Antonia....our Pyr, Holly had passed away, we were down to 2 dogs...happy family life...then my husband saw a mini Aussie on Craiglist.....it was the first time since Holly's passing we both agreed to go look at this pup (I took my checkbook just in case...ha!) we came home with Dasher...he's not anywhere close to a mini...however he's the most loving, social & happy boy we've ever had

    I wish the same for you & your family

    Nancy & Rudy

    We are definitely looking at other breeds, as well, but the same reasons we looked at ours first still stand. Sienna is actually a spunky medium terrier mix, but she gets along better with larger dogs than smaller ones, and I’ve always known how gentle most pyrs are, which is how we got Frost. We also have two cats, so that was a consideration in getting a pyr over other larger breeds, too. I know there are some other larger breeds that fit that personality, and we are definitely looking at adopting - most young pyrs in the rescues are tested with dogs and cats and do well, which is nice. I’m glad to hear you and your husband were able to give that Aussie a home , and thank you for the advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewel View Post
    So sorry for the loss of your baby pyr. I know there are no words adequate to help you with the hurt you are going through.

    I comprehend the deep sense of loss of losing one before it has had its fair share of a good long life. How long the grieving process requires of course varies from person to person. Frost will forever have a place in your heart.

    Bringing another pup into your lives will not replace Frost and it is not a betrayal of sorts to Frost. I think you are right and responsible to acknowledge that while you are still hurting, you still have to have the best interest of your other dog in mind because she is still with you.

    I think that you and your husband made a decision to have a pyr in your lives and Frost joined your family. You never had the chance to know him as a full grown pyr in all his magnificence. I think it would not be a wrong decision to have another pyr as your girl dog is already used to the breed. As to concerns of comparing another pyr pup to Frost, you can try to alleviate that possibility by looking to a pup that is marked differently than Frost. That is, if Frost was all white, look for a pup with badger marks, or vice versa.

    We lost both Bijou and Bro (the two in my avatar pic) within a 15 month period. We lost Bijou first, entirely unexpectedly, at age 6. A month after Bijou left, Bro was diagnosed with bone cancer. Bro died a year after his diagnosis. After we lost Bro, I thought we would just be dogless for a while because I simply didn't have the heart and energy to start all over again, not then, and maybe never. Then Ren came into our lives 4 months later. Ren is our 4th pyr and the first one we've had with heavy badger markings. All of the others had all white faces. With his dark badger marks it's not possible to mistaken him for either Bijou or Bro. It helps to make him his own individual and reminds us that he is not his predecessors.

    Again, so sorry for the devastating loss of Frost. May your find peace in your heart in time.

    Frost was all white, but he had this dopey looking gate because of his elbow displasia that I hope won’t be present in another dog. I love the look of the badger markings, and we’ve looked at some pyr mixes in rescue as well. Thank you for the advice. I can’t imagine losing two babies so close together, and it’s heartening to hear that you were able to bring another dog into your lives so well.

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    I want to express my heartfelt sympathies to you and your family for such a devastating loss. I too, have traveled your path and it is not easy. I am new here and so far folks have been sweet and helpful. They give good tips and advice too. I think they do care. I suspect the dog you are or are not looking for will fall into your hands as my Lonni did. She came as a gift two weeks after the loss of my Gracie. She was a mothers day present. She did not replace Gracie or my many other beloveds, but I look at it as an addition. She is not well now at only a year. I have visited this site many times and joined. I am glad I did. There is much here for the lovers of what we call "the great whites" I wish you and your family well. I pray you find what you may seek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamiam11 View Post
    I want to express my heartfelt sympathies to you and your family for such a devastating loss. I too, have traveled your path and it is not easy. I am new here and so far folks have been sweet and helpful. They give good tips and advice too. I think they do care. I suspect the dog you are or are not looking for will fall into your hands as my Lonni did. She came as a gift two weeks after the loss of my Gracie. She was a mothers day present. She did not replace Gracie or my many other beloveds, but I look at it as an addition. She is not well now at only a year. I have visited this site many times and joined. I am glad I did. There is much here for the lovers of what we call "the great whites" I wish you and your family well. I pray you find what you may seek.
    I am so sorry to hear Lonni is not doing well. I absolutely know how that feels. You know, what you just described is almost exactly what happened to me. I called a well-respected, responsible breeder in my area about Great Pyrenees issues etc, and it turned out she had a new litter with a brown puppy. The father (not her dog) just wasnít fully Great Pyrenees - even though he had the paperwork - and threw a brown pup, and while all of them loved him and his spunky personality, he wasnít exactly like his brothers and sisters! He ended up being our new addition. Iíve learned that I have more room in my heart thank cluld have imagined. Klondike is almost the complete opposite of Frost, but I love him so much already, and Sienna has embraced him as her new baby.

    I wish you all the luck in the world with Lonni, and all the luck in the world with these fabulous animals we all love.

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