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    Hi everyone. Today is my last post. I have cried for about 15 hours straight. Last night my girls and I were laying on our couches watching TV. I was reading Zech's mom thread loving every word. I was imagining my boy and how he's grown. I was watching him lay on our living room floor sleeping thinking about how far he's come and how proud of him I was.....and then it happened. My eldest daughter was sitting near him and she stretched out her leg and it brushed by him. He went nuts. Instantly snarling and growling and very much in defense mode. Teeth baring. My daughter froze and looked at me. I grabbed Baileys leash and said "move your foot again" this time his response was 10 times worse. I needed to see what his reaction was going to be. My oldest is big enough to understand what I was doing and very much involved in his training and care. I needed the reaction to be with her and not my toddler. I quickly pulled him away and he continued to snarl and growl and quite aggressively bark. I put him in his kennel. He never broke her skin but the threat was extremely real and very frightening for all of us.

    I should have seen it coming and a part of me did. Earlier in the day Bailey went for a play date with our trainer and I think he ran too hard. He was sore and miserable all day. I know he's coming into adolescence and he's getting to be a bit of a jerk sometimes but that's all I thought it was. He actually started guarding his bed (not his kennel) and yesterday if I walked by him he would bark and snarl and get himself all worked up. I know he's in pain . I had taken him to the vet earlier and his hips are progressively getting worse. He hasn't had any luck with pain medication as he has a terrible reaction to almost everything we give him.

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    I know why he went after my daughter but he can't bite first ask later....truthfully this isn't the first time we've seen this side of him. When we first brought him home he was already showing aggressive tendencies. He used to growl at my husband. We worked very hard with a Trainor to build on their relationship. He used to snarl and jump at my eldest but we continued to work and build trust. Because of the severity of his hips and his unstable temperment my Trainer has recommended he be put down . I talked to my Vet and we've gone over absolutely everything. He believes that as Bailey ages and settles into his own things will escalate. Without a gene history its hard to judge his intentions. My vet and I decided Bailey should go to a rescue/rehabilitation sanctuary. It has has a no kill policy (u less the medical staff believe he has no alternative for his hips) (they may even consider a replacement) and they staff behavior specialists and vets for medical care. My husband is extremely worried about our children but also because I take care of toddlers for a living. He never is free with the kids but that's a big liability. Please reply but please be kind. I have given this boy my whole heart and I'm the one who rescues dogs not surrenders them. I'm totally devastated.

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    I wish there were adequate words to tell you how heartbroken I am for you and your family right now. This is something I would not wish on anyone, but especially not someone like you. The love you have for this boy has been apparent in each and every one of your posts. I wish every dog could have as loving a home as the one you have given your sweet boy.

    I can’t imagine how devastating this must be, but please know that your decision to send him to the sanctuary is the most loving thing you can do for him. It actually sounds like a wonderful, compassionate organization.

    I am sending much love and gigantic hugs to you and your family. I am so sorry that you are going through this.
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    Nothing I can offer other than to say how deeply saddened I am for you reading this. My heart just breaks for you. You have to remember that you are having to make this choice because you have greater responsibilities that have to come first. It doesn't make the pain less but it may keep the guilt from eating you up so much.

    It is possible that Bailey may even out as he gets older and passes through this phase of so much pain. I know it doesn't help you now but if the rescue can give him a safe place to be, he may have a future. My boy was very reactive while he was in a lot of pain from his hips when he was first diagnosed and before his growth plates closed and we were very careful in our management of him. An accidental bite would have been a real possibility but we had no babies or little ones around that we needed to consider. He still gets cranky when he overdoes it but it is nothing like it was and I can read him well enough to structure his environment so he isn't stressed when he's in pain. Bailey may be able to get there and you have done the best you could to give him a chance.

    I know it doesn't make the pain any less. Hugs to you, and to your little girl, who I suspect is almost as heartbroken...

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    I am very sorry to hear that you are going through this painful experience. Hoping that Bailey gets the treatment that he needs to relieve his pain. It sounds like he is going to stay in a very nice place. I can see by your post how much you love him. Perhaps this aggressive incidents become milder in the near future after and he gets to be sent to a new family This might a phase aggravated because of pain. All the best to you.

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    I am so sorry for the awful situation you and your family find yourselves in. Know that you did not create this situation and you did nothing wrong. To me, the decision you made is the only decision you can make. I support it 1000%. All of the children's safety must be priority. While it isn't Bailey's fault that he suffers from HD, but with his condition, he is just not the right fit in a home with young children.

    Bailey is young and there is a chance his condition could stabilize. You're giving Bailey the best chance he can to find the right home for him.

    Big hugs!

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    Thank you all for you thoughts and warm wishes. I just can't stop crying. Obviously I will put my children first but the thought of not seeing those beautiful black eyes stare up at me is tearing me apart. He is my boy and I only want the absolute best for him. He is different since last night's events. He has growled at me twice since and full of attitude. I tried to take him for one last walk tonight and he wanted nothing to do with me. I just want to wrap my arms around him and make him feel better the way I can with my kids but he's miserable. We are meeting with the behavior specialists and trainers tomorrow evening and Bailey will stay there after his assessment. They charge $450 to surrender and a months worth of food. I was talking to a friend who has adopted from this sanctuary and she said it's like a spa for dogs and horses. They have hundreds of acres all devoted to the animals. If they are unable to find a suitable fit Bailey will spend the rest of his days there. I'm trying to assure myself this will only be of benefit to him. I feel like I've let him down. I did endless months of research on Pyrs before I adopted and swore I would never be "one of those" owners who give up because of barking or digging or other common traits. I actually love everything he does. I love the 4ft craters in my yard. He could win a world championship in digging. I love when he talks to me and when he tell me the neighbors grandson is being a jerk again. I love when he barks like our house is being invaded by armed robbers when a bird lands on the deck. He makes me laugh throughout the day. Truthfully Bailey saved me as much as I tried to save him. I loved waking up at 530 to go on a 6km hike. It was just me and him.

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    I will be sending you love and good energy all day tomorrow.

    Please know that in no way, shape, or form, are you one of “those” people. You aren’t giving up on him. You are doing what you have to do to keep your children safe from him, and him safe from himself. You are also giving him access to medical care that he could not have had outside of the sanctuary. Even the care of the best Moms is no match for staff veterinarians.

    I do hope that at some point in the future, when you and your family are ready, you will find the absolute perfect dog for your family. Any dog would be lucky to have a Mom like you. If and when that happens, I hope you’ll check in and let us know - even if you decide against bringing home another Pyr.

    In the meantime, Sebastian, Chester, and I will be sending big big hugs to you.
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    Letting Bailey go is the right thing to do to protect your children and Bailey.

    We adopted a 3 legged pyr a bit over a year ago. He was at the most 3 years old at the time. He did not have a good start in life and carries a lot of baggage. I tried for 3 months. I returned him to the rescue after he attacked my old boy Bro (the one on the right of my avatar pic) and opened a gash on Bro's head that needed stitches. That last attack was the 6th time he attacked Bro. I felt horrible when I returned him. But Bro was living in fear in his own home. I had to do right by Bro. No one should have to live in fear of one's dog harming another family member.

    You feel horrible and you will miss Bailey terribly. But you are doing the right thing.

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    Zech & I are sending you all our love and strength. These guys in our lives teach us unconditional love, and it's so hard when it's our turn and loving unconditionally means making the only choice you don't want to. Your love of Bailey will always be there with both of you. You both made a difference in each others lives and I am SO GRATEFUL you have found such a place for him. It is heartbreaking when doing the best and right thing for everyone just plain hurts to the bone. I have been crying for you both.....

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