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ad_mn81
01-23-2010, 09:45 AM
So I was watching the show 30days w. Morgan Spurlock, not sure if anyone is familiar with it? But basically people who have very opposing viewpoints go and live with a person(s) who have the exact opposite position as themselves. The episode I watched was about a hunter who went to live with a family in CA who were PETA activists. It was a very interesting and thought provoking episode and quite frankly makes me think twice about certain choices which I make. Anyway in the espisode they make a comment saying how Iams is a very animal unfriendly company, which almost seems like a contradiction considering they manufacture food for animals. Just wondering if anyone else has heard anything like this.

By the way if you have say 40min and want to watch this episode called (Animal RIghts) I would totally reccommend it. You have to download the media player from the site though

http://vod.fxnetworks.com/fod/play.php?sh=thirtydays


After doing some looking into this, I was sickened but what I found and will be letting anyone/everyone who will listen to this about Iams and to not purchase their products. I have attached another link but the footage, is well disturbing at best...

https://secure.peta.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=611

heyitstay
01-23-2010, 10:00 AM
go to iamscruelty.com. The footage is aweful, but it is from peta who do tend to go a little overboard. If the footage is from iams however, my cats will be changing foods. Let me know what you think.

ad_mn81
01-23-2010, 10:08 AM
I agree that PETA is definitely biased, but the video is self explanatory. So from what it sounds like, the footage was filmed at a facility who Iams HIRED/PAID to conduct research for. So while it did not occur on Iams' premises per se, they essentially condoned that type of behavior by doing business with them. How can people/companies have such small conscience's?

heyitstay
01-23-2010, 11:12 AM
unfortunately, its all about money. They assume that no one will find out, and even when they do, they are a cheaper food so some people have little choice but to keep feeding it to their pets. My dogs eat orijen, and I will be switching my cats off of iams. I refuse to support that. On a little bit of a different subject, have you heard that beneful uses euthanized pets in their food. We have never used it but I'm still curious.

ad_mn81
01-23-2010, 11:40 AM
Wow, if that is true, I'm not sure which company is worse... I feed Ace EVO and Natural Balance both are very animal friendly and good for him ie do not contain byproducts and grains etc.I found something for ya...

http://hubpages.com/hub/Dog_Food_Safe_To_Feed_After_The_Dog_Food_Recall

I guess there is a class action lawsuit against several food makers. Its shocking how many different brands are included in it, the link is : http://hubpages.com/hub/Class_Action_Law_Suit_Filed_Against_Pet_Food_Compa nies

fluffylove
01-23-2010, 01:52 PM
PETA IS A HORRILBE ORGANIZATION. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

THIS VIDEO I HAVE SEEN, BUT COULD NOT WATCH FOR MORE THAN A FEW SECONDS WITHOUT BEING SICK TO MY STOMACH. I STAY AWAY FROM ALL MAIN STREAM 'WEALTHY' FOODS.

STAY AWAY FROM PETA. THERE ARE BETTER ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE, PETA IS CRUEL ITSELF.

Milu
01-23-2010, 04:14 PM
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of PETA. I first started being skeptical after realizing that most of the celebrities who do ad campaigns are complete hypocrites or only partial truths when it benefits them- for example, Kimora Lee Simmons did a very publicized naked ad concerning dog welfare. But at the same time, she uses plenty of leather in her clothing line, Baby Phat, the use of which PETA wants to end. I'd definitely also encourage everyone and anyone into looking into the rehoming rates of the animals PETA 'rescues' and how many they put down (it's actually quite shocking the number they report to the state).

ad_mn81
01-23-2010, 06:02 PM
Im not saying I agree with everything they do, but the premise of their beliefs I feel is good. As far as the celebs, I could care less what they say or think, but its good to expose some of the things which they do.

dsloveswva
01-23-2010, 07:19 PM
i'm glad to hear that 'natural balance' food is animal-friendly, but still grappling with the issue of lambs used as food. need to do more homework.
this is a very informative forum, thanks to everyone.

Tsunibear
01-24-2010, 02:11 AM
I do not like PETA at all. Lots of things they show aren't actually filmed where they claim they are filmed at. PETA is really good about twisting the truth to work in their favor. That is all I am going to say about that matter.

Also IAMS and Eukanuba are made by Proctor and Gamble so if that were true for IAMS then it is true for Eukanuba too because they are made in the same factories.

Kate53
01-24-2010, 08:01 AM
I couldn't even watch the movie "Beethoven" because of the scene with the laboratory in it. Even though it didn't show anything being done, my imagination had a hard time with it. Sorry, I wouldn't attempt to watch any of these films on animal cruelty. I make my husband turn off any shows that show that kind of stuff. I just can't handle it. I also have an issue with dog races, horse races and circus stuff. I actually applaud when some of these caged animals get ahold of the humans on occasion. My instincts tell me to leave the wild animals where they belong....in the wild.

PetCareBev
01-25-2010, 10:19 AM
Hi! Sorry to intrude in your forum. I saw this thread and wanted to give you some additional information. I’m an employee at Iams, and a pet lover too. I wouldn’t work at Iams if this video were representative of our policies or practices. The fact is, it was filmed nearly 7 years ago at a facility we did not own. When we found out about the blatant violations of our long-standing animal welfare policies, we immediately ended our relationship with them.

The woman who filmed the video was hired by the contract facility, at Iams’ request and expense, to ensure the animals were treated with proper care. Rather than meet her responsibility to monitor the facility for Iams and to correct unacceptable conditions (as she was paid to do) she allowed those conditions to continue so that she could create this video and exploit these animals.

We do not fund studies that require the loss of life of cats or dogs. We conduct studies in just three kinds of locations: pet owners' homes, our Pet Health & Nutrition Center and locations where dogs and cats are already living (like assistance dog organizations, kennels, etc). We test our foods with healthy pet cats or dogs in their homes or with pets who already have specific diseases or conditions.

If you are interested, our side of this issue can be found at www.IamsTruth.com.

You might also be interested in reading what a couple of bloggers had to say about their visit to us in September of 2009:

http://blogs.catster.com/the-cats-meow-a-cat-and-kitten-blog/animal-testings-happy-healthy-test-subjects/2009/09/14/

http://lovemeow.com/2009/09/the-truth-about-iams-pet-health-nutrition-center/

Again, sorry to intrude.

Tsunibear
01-25-2010, 12:05 PM
Hi! Sorry to intrude in your forum. I saw this thread and wanted to give you some additional information. I’m an employee at Iams, and a pet lover too. I wouldn’t work at Iams if this video were representative of our policies or practices. The fact is, it was filmed nearly 7 years ago at a facility we did not own. When we found out about the blatant violations of our long-standing animal welfare policies, we immediately ended our relationship with them.

The woman who filmed the video was hired by the contract facility, at Iams’ request and expense, to ensure the animals were treated with proper care. Rather than meet her responsibility to monitor the facility for Iams and to correct unacceptable conditions (as she was paid to do) she allowed those conditions to continue so that she could create this video and exploit these animals.

We do not fund studies that require the loss of life of cats or dogs. We conduct studies in just three kinds of locations: pet owners' homes, our Pet Health & Nutrition Center and locations where dogs and cats are already living (like assistance dog organizations, kennels, etc). We test our foods with healthy pet cats or dogs in their homes or with pets who already have specific diseases or conditions.

If you are interested, our side of this issue can be found at www.IamsTruth.com.

You might also be interested in reading what a couple of bloggers had to say about their visit to us in September of 2009:

http://blogs.catster.com/the-cats-meow-a-cat-and-kitten-blog/animal-testings-happy-healthy-test-subjects/2009/09/14/

http://lovemeow.com/2009/09/the-truth-about-iams-pet-health-nutrition-center/

Again, sorry to intrude.

It's not intruding. I work Petsmart and PETA was putting out videos of our stores supposedly so I totally understand wanting to defend your company. Like I said earlier PETA isn't all that truthful if you actually sit down and think about it.

nick's spirit
01-25-2010, 04:41 PM
Bev
Thanks for the info...seems like there are always 2 sides to a story. I do have a question tho...why does Iams need to keep dogs & cats til they are 7 or 8 years old?? Isn't that a bit beyond an adoptable age that most people would want? It's good that they are socialized and trained to be able to go to a forever home, just seems it would be better if they were younger.
Thanks again for the info
Nancy

Milu
01-25-2010, 04:48 PM
If I were to take a guess- I'd say that those would be the most consistent years of a dog & cat's life- where their metabolism doesn't change all that much and it'd be the easiest to obtain data about their digestive systems?

ad_mn81
01-26-2010, 04:15 PM
Thanks for the info Bev, I totally dont consider it as intruding. Id much rather know the truth than be ignorant. I suppose maybe in hindsight I shouldntve of posted what I did, without looking futher into the topic.

PetCareBev
01-27-2010, 03:31 PM
Bev
Thanks for the info...seems like there are always 2 sides to a story. I do have a question tho...why does Iams need to keep dogs & cats til they are 7 or 8 years old?? Isn't that a bit beyond an adoptable age that most people would want? It's good that they are socialized and trained to be able to go to a forever home, just seems it would be better if they were younger.
Thanks again for the info
Nancy

We worked closely with our external Animal Welfare Advisory Board to figure out the right age for adoption with a goal to minimize the total number of animals that we use whenever possible. So we’ve developed life plans for each and every animal, with dogs ready for adoption at age 6 and cats at age 8. This also allows us the time to accomplish our feeding trials, and also work with them to learn about their personalities and prepare them for the second part of their life with their forever family. Our adoption program has a tremendous success rate! And we’ve found that there are a lot of people who actually don’t want puppies or kittens and appreciate an older, trained, well-mannered dog or cat.

Davey Benson
02-04-2010, 10:46 AM
I can't watch animal cruality. I take in rescue animals from time to time. I advocate for humane animal practices. I care for all my animals wellfare from birth to death. And I avoid Peta like the plague. :rolleyes: